Harris presses a more forceful case against Trump than Biden did on abortion, economy and democracy
Kamala Harris and Donald Trump showcased starkly different visions for the country on abortion, immigration and American democracy as they met for the first time Tuesday for perhaps their only debate before Novemberâs presidential election.
Here's a look at the night's biggest moments.
Closing arguments
Harris and Trump veered in different directions in their closing arguments.
The vice president promised that she was focused on the future while Trump was stuck in the past. She emphasized that she has plans to help the middle class.
Trump criticized Harris for not implementing her plans while sheâs in office.
âWhy hasnât she done it?â he said repeatedly.
Harris says she is a gun owner
As she tried to refute Trumpâs accusation that she wants to take away ownersâ guns, Harris revealed that she is a gun owner, too.
âTim Walz and I are both gun owners. Weâre not taking anybodyâs guns away,â she said.
Harris first revealed the news in 2019: âI am a gun owner, and I own a gun for probably the reason a lot of people do â for personal safety,â Harris told reporters in Iowa. âI was a career prosecutor.â
The Affordable Care Act has gotten more popular in polling
One challenge for Trumpâs attacks on the ACA: Itâs gotten a lot more popular since it was passed in 2010.
A found earlier this year that 62% of U.S. adults have a favorable opinion of the Affordable Care Act, up from 46% in 2010.
More broadly, recent gives Harris more of an advantage on the issue of health care. Americans trust her over Trump to better handle health care, 46% to 31%. About 2 in 10 say they trust neither (13%) or both equally (9%).
Trumpâs mystery healthcare plan
For years, Trump has been promising a better healthcare plan than the Affordable Care Act. Asked again during the debate, Trump was unable to explain what he would do on healthcare.
âI have concepts of a plan,â he said. âIâm not president right now.â
He said he would reveal the plan âin the not-so-distant future,â something heâs promised before.
Trump again questions Harrisâ race but says he doesnât care about it
Trump again questioned Harrisâ racial identity but then repeatedly said that he âdoes not careâ how she identifies.
âI read where she was not Black, ... and then I read that she was Black,â Trump said. âI couldnât care less. Whatever she wants to be is okay with me.â
Harris called it a âtragedyâ that Trump, she argued, âhas consistently, over the course of his career, attempted to use race to divide the American people.â
When they go low...
Harris has done something a lot of advisers wanted her to do tonight: She has identified herself as someone who uplifts and Trump as someone who weighs down.
She criticized Trump for âbelittlingâ and âname-callingâ and said she will instead bring a âsense of optimismâ as president.
At the same time, Harris hasnât shied away from hitting Trump with direct, cutting attacks, both on his actions as president and on his false claims about her record.
Harris notes that Trump called for executing the now-exonerated âCentral Park Fiveâ
Harris said Trump has a long history of racial division, going back to when his familyâs company was investigated for refusing to rent to Black people decades ago.
She also mentioned that he called for the death penalty for the âCentral Park Five,â who were falsely accused of rape, and spread false âbirtherâ theories about President Barack Obama.
âI think the American people want better than that, want better than this,â Harris said
New York City Council Member Yusef Salaam, a member of the exonerated group of men known as the Central Park Five, will be speaking to journalists after the debate ends.
Trump has to be careful with his personal attacks on Harris
Trump has to be careful with his personal attacks on HarrisTrump has a fine line to walk on personal attacks on Harris tonight. A found that about two-thirds of voters say Trump has been âtoo personally criticalâ of Harris.
Slightly fewer than half (45%) of voters say Harris has been too personally critical of Trump. Trumpâs supporters are more likely to say heâs too critical of Harris (41% of Trumpâs supporters say this) than Harrisâ supporters are to say sheâs too critical of Trump (12% of Harris supporters say this).
Over time
Both candidates have gone over their allotted time several times during their answers and responses, with Trump ignoring the time clock far more than Harris.
At one point as the debate approached a commercial break around the one-hour mark and as Trump continued to talk about Russia and its president, Vladimir Putin, moderator Linsey Davis cut off Trump with, âPresident Trump, thank you. We have a lot of issues to get to.â
No audience means no waiting for them to quiet down
Anyone whoâs watched a lot of presidential debates knows that a chunk of time is spent quieting down the crowd in between answers.
But no audience being present means that Harris and Trump are likely getting in more speaking time to the questions posed by the ABC News moderators - and reacting to their opponentâs responses.
As was the case with Trumpâs June debate with Biden, rules dictate that there is no live audience present for his debate with Harris.
Trump questions value of NATO
Trump has repeatedly questioned the value of NATO, a Western military alliance of largely European countries and the U.S. and Canada that is committed to one anotherâs defense. Trump complains that many of its 32 members are not meeting their financial commitments to the alliance, claiming that they owe âduesâ to the bloc.
On the campaign trail in February, Trump said that not only would he not protect those countries from Russian forces who have invaded Ukraine, he would encourage Russians âto do whatever the hell they want.â
NATO members do not pay âduesâ to the alliance. They have committed to spending at least 2% of their gross domestic product on their own defense budgets. this year, according to estimated figures the alliance released this month.
About Trumpâs claims of a possible peace deal between Russia and Ukraine
Trump claiming that he could broker a peace deal on behalf of the United States between Russia and Ukraine before he takes office would create a number of problematic issues. Not least of which is that the U.S. has throughout history operated under the doctrine that there is only one president at a time and that foreign policy decisions are reserved for the current occupant of the White House.
A second issue could be that any Trump effort to negotiate an agreement between Putin and Zelenskyy would likely run afoul of a rarely prosecuted 19th-century law known as the Logan Act, which bars private citizens from conducting foreign policy.
Trump tactic: Always question the numbers
Trump has at several points questioned official government measures to make his arguments.
On the economy, he accused the Biden administration of misrepresenting job creation numbers. He accused the FBI of manipulating crime statistics â and stood by his false claim even when fact-checked by ABCâs David Muir. Heâs repeated his false claims that the 2020 election was rigged against him.
He also argued death tolls in Ukraine are âfake numbers.â
Who should win the war in Ukraine?
After a commercial break ended, Trump was asked whether he wanted Ukraine to win the war against Russia.
Trump responded by saying âI want the war to stop,â declining to take sides between Russia and Ukraine.
The answer will likely reverberate in the days to come, especially for a candidate that is viewed as solicitous of Vladimir Putin.
Asked again, Trump said there needs to be a deal to end the war.
Israel-Hamas war comes up
Harris says Israel âhas the right to defend itself,â adding âwe wouldâ if the United States were attacked.
The vice president went on to advocate for a âtwo-state solution.â
As he has frequently during the campaign, Trump said the war would have never happened were he president, saying several times that Harris âhates Israel.â
Saying that accusation wasnât true, Harris said that he is âtrying again to divide and distractâ from the reality thatTrump is "wrong on national security.â
Trump falsely claims evidence shows he won in 2020
Donald Trump is repeating his that he beat President Joe Biden in the 2020 election, saying âthereâs so much proof. All you have to do is look at it.â
The election . The authorities who have reviewed the election â including Trumpâs own attorney general â have concluded the election was fair
Trump said he was speaking sarcastically when he acknowledged recently that he did indeed lose the 2020 election.
âI said that?â Trump says when presented with his comment from a recent interview with Lex Friedman that he had lost âby a whisker.â He said the same thing at a Moms for Liberty event without a hint that he was joking.
Trump has spent years refusing to accept his loss, even though there is no evidence of the fraud that he insists took place.
âThat was said sarcastically,â he says. âI donât acknowledge that at all.â
Court records rebut Trump claims on 2020 protests and police reform
Trump suggested that protesters who committed crimes during the 2020 racial injustice protests were not prosecuted.
âWhen are those people that burned down Minneapolis going to be prosecuted?â Trump asked.
A 2021 of documents in more than 300 federal cases stemming from the protests sparked by George Floydâs death found that more than 120 defendants across the U.S. pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial of federal crimes including rioting, arson and conspiracy.
More than 70 defendants who had been sentenced by August 2021 had received an average of about 27 months behind bars. At least 10 received prison terms of five years or more.
Harris pivots from Jan. 6 to make an ask for votes
With Trump continuing to deny any responsibility for the Jan. 6, 2021, attacks on the Capitol, Harris used the discussion to ask explicitly for a potentially decisive part of the electorate: Republicans disgusted by those mobs and Trumpâs role.
Harris looked directly at the camera to say âthere is a place in our campaign for you.â
She asked for support from voters who âstand for rule of lawâ and want to âend the chaos.â
She never said âRepublicansâ but it was clear that was who she was addressing. Those kinds of voters were already important to Bidenâs razor-thin victories in Arizona and Georgia four years ago. They could prove decisive in some battleground states again.
âI showed up for a speechâ
Trump again minimized his role in the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol, which began when a mob of supporters inspired by his false claims that the election had been stolen stormed the building and engaged in violent clashes with law enforcement.
He said he had ânothing to do with that other than that they asked me to make a speech.â
Though it is true that he encouraged his supporters to proceed peacefully to the Capitol, he also beckoned them to come to Washington to protest the election results and to âfight like hell.â
The future or the past?
Harris throughout the debate has pushed language focused on the future, telling viewing audiences, âletâs turn the page on thisâ and âletâs chart a course to the future.â
But Trump wonât let her forget that sheâs already in office as vice president.
He suggested she leave the debate, go to the Capitol, and work with Biden to pass a law to close down the border.
Muted mics not stopping Harris and Trump from interrupting each other
In the leadup to the debate, Harrisâ and Trumpâs camps battled over whether the candidatesâ mics should be muted when they werenât speaking.
But both Trump and Harris could be heard speaking over each other at least a few times in the first half of the debate.
When Harris said Biden didnât have a plan for middle-class Americans, Trump could be heard punching back: âThatâs just a soundbite. They gave her that to say.â
A few minutes later as Trump grumbled that the U.S. barely makes semiconductor chips, Harris clapped back, âThatâs not true.â
At another point, Trump tried to hush Harris as she tried to interject with a steely, âIâm talking now.â
Trump not moderating his rhetoric about Harris
Just as he does at his rallies, Trump is using over-the-top caricatures of Harris. In the debateâs opening segment, heâs said âeveryone knows sheâs a Marxistâ and that the Biden administration has âdestroyed our country with policy that is insaneâ because âthey have to hate our country.â
Throughout the name-calling and hyperbole, Harris alternated among smiling, shaking her head and looking perplexed.
Trumpâs audiences at rallies love his broadsides on Harris. Itâs not clear he gains any advantage from such hyperbole when the audience is the broader electorateâ- and it offers Harris an opportunity to shatter the caricature.
Harris mentions Trump's felony conviction in response to his claims on crime rates
Harris responded to Trumpâs claims about crime rates by reminding the former president that he is a convicted criminal with several other pending criminal cases.
âI think this is so rich coming from someone who has been prosecuted for national security crimes, economic crimes, election interference, has been found liable for sexual assault,â Harris said. âAnd his next big court appearance is in November at his own criminal sentencing.â
Trump blamed Harris and President Joe Biden for his legal plight, referring to the cases against him as âweaponizationâ of the criminal justice system.
Trump was convicted in May of falsifying business records related to a hush money payment made to porn actor Stormy Daniels on the eve of the 2016 election. His sentencing was delayed last week from Sept. 18 to Nov. 26.
âItâs weaponization and they used it, and itâs never happened in this country. They used it to try and win an election. Theyâre fake cases,â Trump said, adding that heâs confident that his New York conviction will be reversed on appeal.
Harris mentions Trump's felony conviction in response to his claims on crime rates
Harris responded to Trumpâs claims about crime rates by reminding the former president that he is a convicted criminal with several other pending criminal cases.
âI think this is so rich coming from someone who has been prosecuted for national security crimes, economic crimes, election interference, has been found liable for sexual assault,â Harris said. âAnd his next big court appearance is in November at his own criminal sentencing.â
Trump blamed Harris and President Joe Biden for his legal plight, referring to the cases against him as âweaponizationâ of the criminal justice system.
Trump was convicted in May of falsifying business records related to a hush money payment made to porn actor Stormy Daniels on the eve of the 2016 election. His sentencing was delayed last week from Sept. 18 to Nov. 26.
âItâs weaponization and they used it, and itâs never happened in this country. They used it to try and win an election. Theyâre fake cases,â Trump said, adding that heâs confident that his New York conviction will be reversed on appeal.
Trump made multiple false and misleading statement on the cases against him
Trump made multiple false or misleading statements related to the criminal cases against him, including saying he had scored a âcomplete and total victoryâ in the prosecution charging him with illegally hoarding classified documents.
Itâs true that a Trump-appointed judge dismissed the case, but not because she concluded that he was innocent â rather, the ruling from U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon said that the prosecutor who brought the case, special counsel Jack Smith, was unlawfully appointed.
That decision has been appealed and could well be overturned in the weeks ahead, which would revive the prosecution and put it back in court.
Trump also claimed that Biden was found to be âessentially guiltyâ in an investigation into his retention of classified documents. But thatâs not true: the prosecutor in that investigation said that though there was some evidence that Biden had willfully retained the records, it was insufficient to bring a criminal case
Trumpâs legal peril finally comes up
It took more than a half-hour, but Harris found a way, without moderatorsâ help, to bring up Trumpâs legal troubles: his felony convictions, pending indictments and civil liability for sexual assault.
It has spawned a long back-and-forth on who believes more in the rule of law and who is weaponizing the justice system.
At a minimum, it is a notable moment in presidential debate history to have a former and possible future president defend his felony conviction by promising that he will âwin on appeal.â
Trump endorses false rumor about immigrants eating pets
Donald Trump is promoting a false rumor that Haitian immigrants in Ohio are abducting and eating pets, using the baseless story as evidence of crimes being committed by immigrants.
âTheyâre eating the dogs, the people that came in. Theyâre eating the cats,â Trump said.
°Őłó±đ°ù±đâs thatâs occurring. Authorities in Ohio have said there are no credible or detailed reports to support Trumpâs claim.
FBI data shows violent crime is down, despite Trump claims
Trump claimed that âcrime is through the roofâ under the Biden administration.
In fact, FBI data has shown a downward trend in violent crime since the spike during the COVID-19 pandemic.
Violent crime was down 6% in the last three months of 2023 compared with the same period the year before, according to FBI data released in March. Murders were down 13%.
New FBI statistics released in June show the overall violent crime rate declined 15% in the first three months of 2024 compared to the same period last year. One expert has cautioned, however, that those 2024 figures are preliminary and may overstate the actual reduction in crime.
Trump blasts Biden administration over the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan
The main government watchdog and most independent assessments agree Trump and Biden share the biggest share of the blame for the disastrous end to Americaâs longest war, which saw the Taliban sweep across all of Afghanistan before the last U.S. troops even flew out of the Kabul airport.
The main U.S. government watchdog for the war points to Trumpâs 2020 deal with the Taliban to withdraw all U.S. forces and military contractors as âthe single most important factorâ in the August 2021 collapse of U.S.-allied Afghan security forces and the Taliban takeover.
Harris touts support from former Trump officials
Analysts expect the vote margins to be tight in this fallâs general election, and Harris is touting her endorsements from Republicans, including former Trump administration officials.
âI think the choice is clear in this election,â she said.
Trump responded, âI fired most of those people,â adding, as he has frequently of the Biden-Harris administration, âThey never fire anybody.â
At Tuesdayâs debate, two former Trump administration officials are appearing as Harrisâ guests.
Trump notes Biden and Harris' failure to deliver student loan forgiveness
Trump slammed President Biden and Harris for failing to deliver on student loan forgiveness, one of Bidenâs campaign promises.
Some borrowers have gotten relief but parts of the plan have been hampered by Republican opposition and lawsuits. Earlier this month, that would have allowed one of the student loan forgiveness plans to be implemented.
Harrisâ tactic on hard questions: Compare herself to Trump
The vice president has used that same tactic on perhaps the two toughest topics: inflation and the economy under Biden, and the migrant flow across the U.S.-Mexico.
Both times, she opened her answer by saying âIâm the only person on this stage who ...â â a clear way to pivot the question to a comparison between her and Trump.
For the economy, it was to note her middle-class upbringing. She then used that as a bridge to talk about policy.
On the border and immigration, she talked about prosecuting transnational gangs, a reference to her tenure as California attorney general.
Trump says he âwonât have toâ veto a national abortion ban
He didnât agree with GOP foe Nikki Haley on a lot of things during the primary season, but it sounds like Trump does likely agree with his former United Nations ambassador on the ultimately future of a national abortion ban.
Asked if he would veto a national abortion ban, Trump said âI wonât have toâ because âthey could never get this approvedâ in Congress.
When she was vying against Trump for the Republican nomination, Haley to signing a national abortion ban if elected president but said passing one would be unlikely without more Republicans in Congress.
Trump speaks on IVF
Trump repeated his support for IVF access during Tuesdayâs debate, calling himself âa leader on IVF.â
This comes about two weeks after he announced plans, without additional details, to require health insurance companies or the federal government to pay for the common fertility treatment.
The announcement shows the former presidentâs realization that reproductive rights may be a significant vulnerability for Republicans. But it also is with the actions of much of his own party as many Republicans have been left grappling with the innate tension between support for the procedure and for laws passed by their own party that grant legal personhood not only to fetuses but to any embryos that are destroyed in the IVF process.
Efforts by the GOP to appear united on IVF have been undercut by state lawmakers, Republican-dominated courts and anti-abortion leaders within the partyâs ranks.
Trump says he brought abortion âback to statesâ
Trump leaned on his catchall response to questions on abortion rights, saying the issue should be left up to the states.
In states allowing the citizen initiative and where abortion access has been on the ballot, voters have resoundingly affirmed the right to abortion. But voters donât have a direct say in about half the states. In states that will have abortion on the ballot this year, anti-abortion groups and their Republican allies are using a wide array of strategies to counter proposed ballot initiatives.
Trump has repeatedly shifted his position on abortion while boasting about appointing the three Supreme Court justices who helped overturn the constitutional right to abortion, unleashing a wave of restrictions on the procedure across Republican-led states.
Abortion is a central campaign issue in the 2024 presidential election as Trump seeks a more cautious stance on the issue, which has become a vulnerability for Republicans and has driven turnout for Democrats.
Trump repeats misinformation on abortions later in pregnancy
Trump parroted common misinformation narratives about abortions later in pregnancy during Tuesdayâs debate.
The former president has repeatedly made about states allowing abortions after birth. This is false. Infanticide is criminalized in every state, and no state has passed a law that allows killing a baby after birth.
Abortion rights advocates say terms like this and attempt to stigmatize abortions later in pregnancy. Abortions later in pregnancy are exceedingly rare. In 2020, less than 1% of abortions in the United States were performed at or after 21 weeks, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Abortions later in pregnancy also are usually the result of serious complications, such as fetal anomalies, that put the life of the woman or fetus at risk, medical experts say. In most cases, these are also wanted pregnancies, experts say.
Americans give Harris an edge over Trump on abortion policy
As debate turns to issues of abortion, recent polling shows that this topic is a strong one for Harris.
About half of Americans (51%) say they trust Harris to do a better job of handling abortion policy than they do Trump (27%), according to an .
This is also an issue where Republicans give Trump relatively low marks, signaling some possible displeasure from his own party. Only about 6 in 10 Republicans trust Trump over Harris on these issues. About 15% trust Harris more, and about 1 in 10 trust both candidates equally.
Harris: Iâm for the middle class. Trump is for the rich guy.
Harris is leaning into her middle-class background and her plans to create an âopportunity economyâ while lashing out at Trump as out-of-touch.
âDonald Trump has no plan for you. And when you look at his economic plan, itâs all about tax breaks for the richest people,â she says.
Trump for his part pushing back that Harris is an empty vessel when it comes to the economy. âShe doesnât have a plan. She copied Bidenâs plan.â
Harris on Trumpâs proposed tariffs
Harris claimed that âeconomists have said that that Trumpâs sales tax would actually result for middle class families in about $4,000 more a year.â She was referring to Trumpâs proposal to impose a tariff of 10% to 20% on all imports â he has mentioned both figures â and up to 60% on imports from China.
Most economists do expect it would raise prices on many goods. The Center for American Progress Action Fund, a progressive advocacy group, has calculated that the higher tariffs would cost households an extra $3,900 a year. However, Trump has said the tariff revenue could be used to cut other taxes, which would reduce the overall cost of the policy.â
Harris forecasts âlies, grievances and name-callingâ from Trump
Harris has been viewing Trump with a somewhat skeptical look on her face, and she says sheâs not expecting much truth from him during this debate.
Harris says she expects to hear âa bunch of lies, grievances and name-callingâ from her GOP opponent during their 90-minute debate.
Trump again distances himself from Project 2025
Trump is again distancing himself from Project 2025, the Heritage Foundation project crafted by dozens of his former administration officials.
âI havenât read it. I donât want to read it, purposefully. Iâm not going to read it,â he says.
Democrats have made the deeply conservative proposals a centerpiece of their attacks against Trump.
Harris focuses on middle class in first answer; Trump pivots to immigration
With the White House under pressure on the economy, Harris said she was âraised as a middle class kidâ and would be focused on creating an âopportunity economy.â
She also sharply criticized Trump for policies that she said would increase costs for Americans.
Trump rejected the description, and he said he would focus on tariffs on imports from foreign countries.
He also swiftly shifted focus to immigration, saying people were âpouring into the country.â
First question of the debate is on the economy
Many voters say itâs the top issue for them in this election, and the economy is the first question during the Harris-Trump debate.
Americans are slightly more likely to trust Trump over Harris when it comes to handling the economy, according to an .
Views about the economy arenât especially rosy. About 6 in 10 U.S. adults say economic conditions in the country are âgetting worse,â according to . And slightly fewer than half (45%) rate the U.S. economy as âpoorâ while 31% describe it as âonly fair.â About one-quarter call it excellent or good.
By one measure, Americans are not better or worse off than four years ago. Earlier Tuesday, the Census Bureau released an annual report that showed inflation-adjusted U.S. median household income in 2023 rose for the first time since 2019 to $80,610 â about the same as it was four years ago, in 2019.