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RFK Jr. and other Trump officials embrace psychedelics after FDA setback

RFK Jr. and other Trump officials embrace psychedelics after FDA setback
- I'm Dr. Ellen Vora. I'm a holistic psychiatrist and the author of "The Anatomy of Anxiety." (mellow lively music) Psychedelics as a general category, in certain ways, they rhyme with what we're already doing in the mental health field. They're active on serotonin receptors, not unlike our common psychiatric pharmaceuticals. We're fighting against quite a lot of cultural stigma, and we think that because they're illicit and illegal and recreational, that these are gonna be addictive substances, when, in fact, the data shows us that in many ways they're anti addictive. They might help somebody move away from a different substance use disorder. They also work in ways that are fundamentally different from our current treatments. There's interesting research called the Mystical Experience Hypothesis, where we see that part of how psychedelics are working is that the extent to which somebody experiences a peak mystical experience in a psychedelic treatment correlates with the antidepressant effect. So that's different from our conventional psychiatric medications. We're not just looking at modulation of serotonin activity, we're looking at a shift in worldview and mindset that has an impact on our overall well-being. So there's a lot of overlap between conventional psychiatric medications like antidepressants and psychedelics, and while they're both acting on the behavior of serotonin, a particular neurotransmitter in the brain, they have really different effects. Sometimes somebody in a psychedelic treatment might actually cry quite a lot. They might even feel like they access that ability to feel emotions deeply better than they otherwise would in their lives. We might conventionally think that that's a bad thing, but what I've come to appreciate is that that is medicine, that that's actually part of why these treatments are so effective. Rather than tamping down or blunting an emotional process that's inside of us, it gives us an opportunity to move through it and let it come up and out, and then we can arrive at a place of resolution. The key to a successful psychedelic therapy experience, I think, has a lot to do with approaching it the way it's structured, with preparation, treatment, and integration. And preparation is so critical because you do wanna establish rapport with your therapist, you wanna feel trust, and so that you can feel safe and fully let go to the experience. I think what's most important there is actually to enter with both an intention but also no expectation. It is said in the psychedelic field that it's 10% about the big experience and 90% about integration. So just having a psychedelic experience alone does not cure PTSD or depression, but it is a very helpful augmentation and enhancement of the therapeutic process. So integration is really where it's at, and that's where you revisit insights gained from the experience. You galvanize it, you start to make a plan for how to incorporate this into your day-to-day life. It's beautiful that we're de-stigmatizing these medicines, that there's more public conversation about their benefits, but I think we can be prone to then thinking of it as a silver bullet, and that we just go in and have this experience and it's gonna fix everything, when, in fact, it's going to be different for everyone, it's gonna be different every time, and it does not heal us alone. It heals us in combination with integration therapy. What the research currently shows us is that psychedelics can be beneficial for depression, for especially treatment-resistant depression, for end of life anxiety and angst. And MDMA, in particular, is a very effective treatment for PTSD, or post-traumatic stress disorder. And psychedelics are an ongoing research right now for the treatment of everything from substance use disorders, alcoholism, to eating disorders and OCD. When someone's trying to decide what type of psychedelic therapy to move forward with, there are a lot of different considerations. We have to keep tempering our expectations and make sure we understand that these can be very useful tools in conjunction with therapy. It has risks and considerations. As with everything, it's more nuanced and more complex. We need to start bringing a growth mindset view to mental health, to see this as, perhaps we have a genetic vulnerability but not a genetic destiny. And while we might be exhibiting symptoms today, that that can change under the right conditions. For more information, you can check out my book, "The Anatomy of Anxiety," and visit OprahDaily.com. (mellow lively music) (marker scribbling)
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RFK Jr. and other Trump officials embrace psychedelics after FDA setback
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For decades, proponents of psychedelic drugs have come to Washington with a provocative message: Illegal, mind-altering substances like LSD and ecstasy should be approved for Americans grappling with depression, trauma and other hard-to-treat conditions.A presidential administration finally seems to agree."This line of therapeutics has tremendous advantage if given in a clinical setting and we are working very hard to make sure that happens within 12 months," Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. recently told members of Congress.His suggested timeline for green-lighting psychedelic therapy surprised even the most bullish supporters of the drugs. And it comes as psychedelics are making inroads in deep red states like Texas, where former Trump cabinet secretary and ex-governor Rick Perry has thrown his full support behind the effort.The administration's embrace of psychedelics has sparked both excitement as well as concern from those in the field, who worry the drugs might be discredited if they appear to be rushed onto the market or are too closely linked with Kennedy, who is known for controversial views on vaccines, antidepressants and fluoride."I'm quite optimistic," says Rick Doblin, whose organization has pursued the medical use of MDMA (or ecstasy) since the 1980s. "But I'm also worried that the message the public might get is 'Well, RFK likes psychedelics and now it's approved.'"FDA may reconsider MDMAUnder President Joe Biden, the FDA rejected MDMA as a treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder, citing flawed data and questionable research. Regulators called for a new study, likely taking several years. It was a major setback for Doblin and other advocates hoping to see the first U.S. approval of a psychedelic for medical use.But the agency appears ready to reconsider. FDA chief Marty Makary, who reports to Kennedy, has called the evaluation of MDMA and other psychedelics "a top priority," announcing a slate of initiatives that could be used to accelerate their approval.One new program promises to expedite drugs that serve "the health interests of Americans," by slashing their review time from six months or more to as little as one month. Makary has also suggested greater flexibility on requirements for certain drugs, potentially waiving rigorous controlled studies that compare patients to a placebo group.That approach, considered essential for high-quality research, has long been a stumbling point for psychedelic studies, in which patients can almost always correctly guess whether they've received the drug or a dummy pill.The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and FDA also recently hired several new staffers with ties to the psychedelic movement."These are all very promising signs that the administration is aware of the potential of psychedelics and is trying to make overtures that they're ready to approve them," said Greg Ferenstein, a fellow at the libertarian Reason Foundation, who also consults for psychedelic companies. "We didn't hear anything about that in the Biden administration."A spokesperson for HHS did not respond to a request for comment.As a presidential candidate, Kennedy discussed how his son and several close friends benefited from using psychedelics to deal with grief and other issues.A number of veterans lobbying for psychedelic access have already met with Trump's Secretary of Veterans Affairs, Doug Collins."What we're seeing so far is positive," Collins told House lawmakers in May.But some experts worry the hope and hype surrounding psychedelics has gotten ahead of the science.Philip Corlett, a psychiatric researcher at Yale University, says bypassing rigorous clinical trials could set back the field and jeopardize patients."If RFK and the new administration are serious about this work, there are things they could do to shepherd it into reality by meeting the benchmarks of medical science," Corlett said. "I just don't think that's going to happen."Texas goes all-in on ibogaine researchAs officials in Washington weigh the future of psychedelics, some states are moving ahead with their own projects in hopes of nudging the federal government. Oregon and Colorado have legalized psychedelic therapy.And last month, Texas approved $50 million to study ibogaine, a potent psychedelic made from a shrub that's native to West Africa, as a treatment for opioid addiction, PTSD and other conditions. The research grant — the largest of its kind by any government — passed with support from the state's former GOP governor, Perry, and combat veterans, some who have traveled to clinics in Mexico that offer ibogaine.Ibogaine is on the U.S. government's ultra-restrictive list of illegal, Schedule 1 drugs, which also includes heroin. So advocates in Texas are hoping to build a national movement to ease restrictions on researching its use."Governmental systems move slowly and inefficiently," said Bryan Hubbard of Americans for Ibogaine, a group formed with Perry. "Sometimes you find yourself constrained in terms of the progress you can make from within."Ibogaine is unique among psychedelics in both its purported benefits and risks. Small studies and anecdotal reports suggest the drug may be able to dramatically ease addiction and trauma. It was sold for medical use in France for several decades starting in the 1930s, but the drug can also cause dangerous irregular heart rhythms, which can be fatal if left untreated.Some veterans who have taken the drug say the risks can be managed and ibogaine's healing properties go far beyond antidepressants, mood stabilizers, counseling and other standard treatments.Marcus Capone struggled with anger, insomnia and mood swings after 13 years as a Navy Seal. In 2017, at the urging of his wife Amber, he agreed to try ibogaine as a last resort. He described his first ibogaine session as "a complete purge of everything.""But afterward I felt the weight just completely off my shoulders," he said. "No more anxiety, no more depression, life made sense all of a sudden."A nonprofit founded by the Capones, Veterans Exploring Treatment Solutions, or VETS, has helped over 1,000 veterans travel abroad to receive ibogaine and other psychedelics.But federal scientists have looked at the drug before — three decades ago, when the National Institute on Drug Abuse funded preliminary studies on using it as an addiction treatment. The research was discontinued after it identified "cardiovascular toxicity.""It would be dead in the water," in terms of winning FDA approval, longtime NIDA director Nora Volkow said.But Volkow said her agency remains interested in psychedelics, including ibogaine, and is funding an American drugmaker that's working to develop a safer, synthetic version of the drug."I am very intrigued by their pharmacological properties and how they are influencing the brain," Volkow said. "But you also have to be very mindful not to fall into the hype and to be objective and rigorous in evaluating them."

For decades, proponents of psychedelic drugs have come to Washington with a provocative message: Illegal, mind-altering substances like LSD and ecstasy should be approved for Americans grappling with depression, trauma and other hard-to-treat conditions.

A presidential administration finally seems to agree.

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"This line of therapeutics has tremendous advantage if given in a clinical setting and we are working very hard to make sure that happens within 12 months," Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. recently told members of Congress.

His suggested timeline for green-lighting psychedelic therapy surprised even the most bullish supporters of the drugs. And it comes as psychedelics are making inroads in deep red states like Texas, where former Trump cabinet secretary and ex-governor Rick Perry has thrown his full support behind the effort.

The administration's embrace of psychedelics has sparked both excitement as well as concern from those in the field, who worry the drugs might be discredited if they appear to be rushed onto the market or are too closely linked with Kennedy, who is known for controversial views on vaccines, antidepressants and fluoride.

"I'm quite optimistic," says Rick Doblin, whose organization has pursued the medical use of MDMA (or ecstasy) since the 1980s. "But I'm also worried that the message the public might get is 'Well, RFK likes psychedelics and now it's approved.'"

FDA may reconsider MDMA

Under President Joe Biden, the FDA rejected MDMA as a treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder, citing flawed data and questionable research. Regulators called for a new study, likely taking several years. It was a major setback for Doblin and other advocates hoping to see the first U.S. approval of a psychedelic for medical use.

But the agency appears ready to reconsider. FDA chief Marty Makary, who reports to Kennedy, has called the evaluation of MDMA and other psychedelics "a top priority," announcing a slate of initiatives that could be used to accelerate their approval.

One new program promises to expedite drugs that serve "the health interests of Americans," by slashing their review time from six months or more to as little as one month. Makary has also suggested greater flexibility on requirements for certain drugs, potentially waiving rigorous controlled studies that compare patients to a placebo group.

That approach, considered essential for high-quality research, has long been a stumbling point for psychedelic studies, in which patients can almost always correctly guess whether they've received the drug or a dummy pill.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and FDA also recently hired several new staffers with ties to the psychedelic movement.

"These are all very promising signs that the administration is aware of the potential of psychedelics and is trying to make overtures that they're ready to approve them," said Greg Ferenstein, a fellow at the libertarian Reason Foundation, who also consults for psychedelic companies. "We didn't hear anything about that in the Biden administration."

A spokesperson for HHS did not respond to a request for comment.

As a presidential candidate, Kennedy discussed how his son and several close friends benefited from using psychedelics to deal with grief and other issues.

A number of veterans lobbying for psychedelic access have already met with Trump's Secretary of Veterans Affairs, Doug Collins.

"What we're seeing so far is positive," Collins told House lawmakers in May.

But some experts worry the hope and hype surrounding psychedelics has gotten ahead of the science.

Philip Corlett, a psychiatric researcher at Yale University, says bypassing rigorous clinical trials could set back the field and jeopardize patients.

"If RFK and the new administration are serious about this work, there are things they could do to shepherd it into reality by meeting the benchmarks of medical science," Corlett said. "I just don't think that's going to happen."

Texas goes all-in on ibogaine research

As officials in Washington weigh the future of psychedelics, some states are moving ahead with their own projects in hopes of nudging the federal government. Oregon and Colorado have legalized psychedelic therapy.

And last month, Texas approved $50 million to study ibogaine, a potent psychedelic made from a shrub that's native to West Africa, as a treatment for opioid addiction, PTSD and other conditions. The research grant — the largest of its kind by any government — passed with support from the state's former GOP governor, Perry, and combat veterans, some who have traveled to clinics in Mexico that offer ibogaine.

Ibogaine is on the U.S. government's ultra-restrictive list of illegal, Schedule 1 drugs, which also includes heroin. So advocates in Texas are hoping to build a national movement to ease restrictions on researching its use.

"Governmental systems move slowly and inefficiently," said Bryan Hubbard of Americans for Ibogaine, a group formed with Perry. "Sometimes you find yourself constrained in terms of the progress you can make from within."

Ibogaine is unique among psychedelics in both its purported benefits and risks. Small studies and anecdotal reports suggest the drug may be able to dramatically ease addiction and trauma. It was sold for medical use in France for several decades starting in the 1930s, but the drug can also cause dangerous irregular heart rhythms, which can be fatal if left untreated.

Some veterans who have taken the drug say the risks can be managed and ibogaine's healing properties go far beyond antidepressants, mood stabilizers, counseling and other standard treatments.

Marcus Capone struggled with anger, insomnia and mood swings after 13 years as a Navy Seal. In 2017, at the urging of his wife Amber, he agreed to try ibogaine as a last resort. He described his first ibogaine session as "a complete purge of everything."

"But afterward I felt the weight just completely off my shoulders," he said. "No more anxiety, no more depression, life made sense all of a sudden."

A nonprofit founded by the Capones, Veterans Exploring Treatment Solutions, or VETS, has helped over 1,000 veterans travel abroad to receive ibogaine and other psychedelics.

But federal scientists have looked at the drug before — three decades ago, when the National Institute on Drug Abuse funded preliminary studies on using it as an addiction treatment. The research was discontinued after it identified "cardiovascular toxicity."

"It would be dead in the water," in terms of winning FDA approval, longtime NIDA director Nora Volkow said.

But Volkow said her agency remains interested in psychedelics, including ibogaine, and is funding an American drugmaker that's working to develop a safer, synthetic version of the drug.

"I am very intrigued by their pharmacological properties and how they are influencing the brain," Volkow said. "But you also have to be very mindful not to fall into the hype and to be objective and rigorous in evaluating them."