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THOUSANDS <ON CAM> PEOPLE HAVE WORKED AT ����vlog. A FEW OF THEM ARE TRUE PIONEERS. <Hello, Heidi. It's good to see you.> THIS SUMMER - <Mollie hugging Judy.> <Guys, we look good. I've seen the others.> SOME OF THE WOMEN WHO BROKE BROADCASTING BARRIERS LET US LISTEN IN-- <How's your summer? Good.> <Judy, they have decaf chai. If you like it.> AS THEY GRABBED A DRINK, CAUGHT UP - <Heidi Ho. How's your boy? He's almost 30.> AND SHARED STORIES OF BREAKING IN TO JOBS THAT, WHEN THEY STARTED, WERE DOMINATED BY MEN. <What year did you start? Working at ����vlog? I think it was 1976> <I started in news. I was a news didn't know that for. Yeah. Oh, wow.> <So we all started in 76. Yeah, yeah, it was 76 part time, though. I can't remember when I went full time, maybe like 77, 78, I don't know. I mentioned you were 81. Okay. I was and I was about then too. Right. So you had to be in engineering in 76.> <You were the first woman engineer? Engineering, yeah. And how how you were accepted? Just Just with open arms. You guys all worked with those engineering guys. They were all about my father's age. Exactly. Yeah. And a lot of those guys put the TV station on there for the first time. Yeah. So they birthed a TV station. 55. Yeah. And 55. It was KRNT at that time, but they just accepted me with open arms and taught me everything they knew.> <And this was in the old building underneath 9th street and we had no windows in the newsroom or anything. So the only way we know it was raining outside is if the roof leaked. Laugh.> <I so I started in 83 and there were two female chief photographers before me. I just I didn't realize until later. I always felt that everyone at channel eight, in every department wanted to help you and make you better.> <Yeah. I came in at 18.> <I spent more Christmases with you. Yeah, exactly. Than I did my on family.> <Everyone, from Rick Swalwell, who was the anchor, to Dave Busiek, who was an anchor at the time, to everyone, especially the guys in the back. The engineers in the back were not going to let me fail. I know they always yeah, they always felt tickled about put two babes in the directors seat. So yeah. Yeah, they just supported me and us and cheered us on. Yeah, yeah. That was so awesome.> <When we were growing up, there weren't any women on TV as anchors. It was all men. Yeah, white men. And if there were women on, they were doing weather like Connie, I'm not a meteorologist. I remember somebody said, oh, I don't watch her because she's not a meteorologist. I'm like, I'm not a doctor, but I report on the health.> <I got asked a lot, about why I was so stoic or straight on the air when I'm kind of not in real life. And I said, And I said, because I felt like if I acted like a clown or hokey and, and did things like that, which I did sort of eventually I wouldn't be taken seriously because I was a woman. > > <I was told when I wanted to TV that women can't do that job because it's so stressful. I would just break down and cry. It'll affect your period. Laugh. Sorry. Raising kids is not stressful? Yeah. I don't think I ever cried once. > <Did you always want to be a photographer? I knew I wanted to be a photographer since the fifth grade.> <It was out in the field when I'd be the only woman.> <there'd be these scrums chasing candidates and there'd be all men. And I just felt like, I can't screw up. I can't make a mistake. Yeah, they're all watching so they can see women can't do this. Yep. So, you know, so I always said yes to everything. I didn't want to do. I don't want to really get on that roof because it's really high or or do this, that thing. But they did it because I didn't want anybody to ever see women can't do this job.> <When I started in engineering. All of the guys who are white shirts and ties, and I went into the chief engineer's office because I wasn't going to wear a skirt. You can't climb up on a ladder, right?> <What did you do in locker rooms? Well, I've got some off color stories but you know, locker rooms? There were times where I was tested for sure. But I grew up. I have 7 brothers. One older, the rest younger. And I was kind of a tomboy. So being around men was not a big deal.> <I was interviewing one of the guys playing, He came up and he was stark naked, and he. And there was something right there by my face. Think microphone, OK? And and I just ignored it. But I wish I always wish I would have grabbed it and said so. So because he obviously was trying to intimidate me.> <It was something different every day. I couldn't imagine coming up with any other profession that the worst of the people we met, the best of the people. And then we told their stories. And that was our job.> <You know, there is an exceptional quality about ����vlog. I'm proud it continues. It's about people. It's family. It always has been. We've been at baby showers. I was going to say, We were in each other's weddings. We had each other's baby showers. We love to party. We like the good work and we still are. We're retired, but we're still together. > > <Were you on the noon when I? For a while. When your water broke? No, Third child. You'd think I know? But, Yeah, I was doing the noon news. I finished at 1230, and Liz came at 130. Wow. Yeah. So did I was on. Yeah, I was on the air. And, you know, how were you having contractions? I was doing the weather, and I was writing down the contractions four minutes apart. I'm like, I believe the hospital was right across the street, but I had to drive myself over there. > > <I think one of the extraordinary things about ����vlog - and I know we always think our place is the best - and that our years were the golden years. The best years. But ours really were. They were.> <I would also add that it changed and adapted because we were there, and we proved that we can do the job really well and continue the excellence, which is what everybody cared the most about, and that we could treat people better or differently because of our experience and because in fact, we were in management positions. I'm very proud of that.> <there remains something really extraordinary about the ����vlog legend that we all have our place on that timeline, and it is sacred. And we're grateful for it. And it's nobody messes with it.> <You are rewarded for your work and you are appreciated and, I can